If i have a group of doe's coming in early in the morn then i will not shoot i,ll let them go because i don,t want them to know i,m thier , but after a week i,ll wait till i,m about to get down which is around noon and if thiers a lone doe coming down the trail and i have a good shot on her i,ll take her then i won,t go back to that stand untill the rut kicks in it,s work for me so far