Thanks for the import. I've seen that name thrown around A LOT while looking up scopes and reviews and what not here on the forums. seems to be a favorite but i dont know if i want to spend 250 on a scope when i dont know if im gonna use a shotgun or my muzzleloader more. I would definitly use my sights for my first deer or maybe two and see how i like it but they got filed off by the owner before me. It already has the rail to mount the scope on it so i figure i'll just buy a scope. So if mildot scopes are useless for muzzleloaders ill look into some normal scopes then. Thanks