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ORIGINAL: SwampCollie
I'm with you James. I like the .243 just fine (though I fancy the 6mm Rem more), but the advantages to having just a little bit larger bullet diameter and a heavier bullet with that .257 or the .250-3000 make it a little bit better choice in my opinion.
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limiting my comments to factory loads, I'm not sure I see any advantage to using the "little bit larger bullet diameter and the heavier bullet" in the Roberts over the .243. Even with the 117 gr .257 +P load from Winchester, the 100 gr. .243 has more energy at 100 yards and beyond, and sighting both in at 200 yards, the .243 is flatter shooting by 12"over a400 yard trajectory. Do you really think deer are going to drop any better when they're hit less hard by a bullet that weighs only 17 gr. more and has a diameter that is only 14 thousands of aninch larger? If you assume that you need a minimum of 1000 ft lbs of energy for a clean deer kill, the 100 gr. .243 is a 325 yard deer rifle, and the 117 gr. .257+P is a 250 yard deer rifle. Again.... I'm not denigrating the Roberts at all, as I think it's a great deer rifle, particularly considering that most deer are shot at well under 200 yards, but, I really fail to see any advantage over the .243 unless you're a handloader.
I wasn't limiting your comment to anything. I am a handloader as well. The onlyammo I shoot that is factory loaded is 30-30 Win, and thats only tofireform brass for my 30/30 A.I.
Don't take everything as an attack on your person, intelligence or abilities. I was just sharing my opinion, which happened to be the same as James'.
If you want to limit statements, then I'd have to say that your arguement on 400 yard trajectories is totally moot, because in my hunting scenarios, my longest shot is only about 175 yards. The humidity and mirage are so bad in the south that even if I had 400 open yards (and deer don't linger in the open very long), I couldn't hit them anyway.