Bloodnativ... when I recommended the 20ga, I was anticipating flying targets... not sitting ones. You're right, it's pretty easy centering a sitting target with a .410..it would be adequate for that. Hitting flushing quail with it is another story. It's smaller, thinner(fewer shot)pattern is too big a handicap for a beginner... too many misses equal frustration. In my opinion, a beginner needs as large and dense a pattern as they can comfortably shoot, when shooting birds on the wing..

"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness..those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana