I would absolutely LOVE to tag a buck in velvet someday. Our Oct 1 opener here in IL keeps me well away from that dream. It sounds like I'm going to have to take a look at some velvet hunts available in other states in the future. The Youth hunt you mentioned above has me very interested. My Daughter would get a charge out of something like that, plus I have a son that should be old enough to hunt next season. Man, wouldn't that be an awesome summer vacation for them just before school starts back up ?!?