Thanks guys, I went and saw the doc. Just before going into his office my knee made a big pop and did that ever hurt.. The doc thinks it may be gout by the way it had been coming on. But, sent me over for a x-ray so he could check to make sure what is going on. He gave 2 prescriptions, 1 to help get the swelling down and another for the pain.I clearly explained I did not want the pain pills asI had a bad bout with them years ago and didn't want it again. He said these are not like that and that I should take one for pain whenI go to bed to help me sleep..... He also said by getting that swelling down most of the pain if not all of it should go away.. I can only say I hope so..