more animals have been killed with a 30-30 than any other rifle in history, including elk. one of my hunting buddies has killed every one of his elk with his 30-30 using 170 grn bullets. i think that if you can shoot and know your rifle inside and out then there should be no problem using a 30-30.(HERE WE GO AGAIN) shoot alot and then shoot some more, know your gun and know where the kill zone is and aim for that spot, BECAUSE SHOT PLACEMENT IS EVERYTHING. if you don't have the shot then don't make 3 legged elk or bloated elk from a stomach shot. if i was told that i was not allowed in someones camp because of my rifle i would camp right across the road or as close to you just to prove that you can't keep me out of the WOODS. I THINK THAT THEY CALL IT FREEDOM OF CHOICE. just my .02


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