Killin' an' elk and finding a kilt elk are two differnt things. People used to hunt elk a lot with 30-30s back in the early 1900s. They also didn't have limits an' 'bout wiped the critter off the planet at one point. Read 'bout Teddy Roosevelt's Two Ocean Pass Hunt. He never took the meat of a bull, would gut shoot 'em on purpose, and lost many he hit. With all the people we got nowadays, there ain't even no sense in talkin' bout takin' a pop gun after the best game animal we got.

BJ