Yep! All of the above.

You know I have noticed that in STW....which there are lots of them here in my hometown, Seem to shoot better and show no signs of pressure with max or even higher loads. I have seen 2 guys with Remingtons run them 4grs over max and still show no pressure signs. Then one rather wealthy shooter had a strain guage made. His was only running in the mid 50s CUP with a very hot load. That is less than the WSSM factory loads!

Now, I don't condone this at all. I load for accuracy and don't care to take chances. I have seen the results of others. You know one of lifes greatest lessons is that learned from SOMEONE ELSE'S MISTAKE~!~~

Dave