Well, I'll give you this example. One of the more productive hunt clubs that I am lucky enough to attend has about 35 full life-time members (this ain't one of those clubs you just join...). They have not had a year, not one, since I have been hunting with them (which has been nearly 20 years now) that the club as a whole has not killed at least 350 deer a season. Usually its up over 400. They have lots of land, and lots of deer, and lots of young'in, grandkids, etc etc to shoot them. Of course, they also trophy manage. There have been a few deer to gross over 200" that have come out of this club in the 40 years of its existance. They do kill lots of big, mature deer, every season.

Not one deer, NOT ONE SINGLE BUCK ever killed at that club has weighed over 225 pounds on the hoof....NOT ONE.