well i didn't point the finger at anyone. just making an observation. I shoot 140 or bigger, not because they do it on tv but for the challange. If i wanted to shoot what ever i would be done on the first day of bow. i always see 4-6 young bucks. We don't need the point or spread resriction. the one buck is working fine. its increasing are buck population. i got a 182-5/8 but my favorite is a 140 i stalked. imo its no fun to shoot a young buck. they just don't produce a challange. The reason are gun season is so long is because theres not enough bow hunters shooting doe's.