i'm shooting a 6x lens w/ a #2 clarifier on my 3d bow. i like it a lot. now, get a hog or black bear target deep in the shade, and all you can see is black - can't even tell where you're aiming - unless you have both eyes open, and its still guesswork. the better guys i know shoot 3x lenses so you don't see quite as much float. seeing too much float because of the magnification tends to induce stress. there are times when someone has put a great shot on a target and i can't see the nock w/ my naked eye. get to full draw, look thru the clarifier and lens - there it is - that's when i really love it, or when i can see the 12 ring thru it.