Ive been shooting alot of buffalo carp just north of the Montezuma bridge on the Wabash. I have shot a couple nice grass carp also. Let me guess, you find a log jam and look for mouths sucking down that gunk. Thats how Ive been doing it anyways. Nice to know that Im not the only one around here that does it because I am the only one that I know of. I live in Hillsdale incase you were wondering.