titleist...my last post was posted prior to reading your most recent post. I still maintain that it is only 350 acres and it is just not worth it! Now if these guys are gun poachin' slobs then yes, that does suck and I despise that if what you say is true. However, why deal with them? You will always have problems with them. Find someplace else...let them have their 350 acres, at least that way you know where they are at and they won't be out ruining anyone else's hunting ground. The amount of effort you are going to expend on locking up this 350 acres could be better spent finding another 3500 acres to hunt somewhere else IMO. I had a very, very similar situation happen to me when I came home from college years ago and needed to find a place to hunt. I found a spot and the landowner was happy to let me hunt the ground. It was an abandoned apple orchard surrounded by thick timber...what a spot! I scouted, plotted, and planned all summer long and was pumped! However, the weekend before the season opened I went by the landowner's again to let them know exactly where I would be hunting and when. It was all good and in parting the landowner says, "oh by the way, you better let Frank, next door, know that you are hunting because he hunts here too" Well I go knock on ole Frank's door and let him know the scoop thinking it would be no big deal since he is only one guy and this is a nice section of land to hunt. Well Frank blows up and goes crazy and says he has 4-5 other guys that hunt with him there and has for years and blah, blah, blah. I started to argue with him but then quickly realized that even if I win, I lose and it would never have been a peaceful spot to hunt. It would have been tainted by turmoil and drama...much like your situation. Now Frank is a known poacher and would sell deer meat out of his house (very illegal). I alerted the proper authorities once and left it at that. Frank went his way and I went my way. I found another spot and have been hunting it for 11 years now. Now if Frank and his sons were hunting the spot and had been for years and had permission then I would have still backed off because the spot was not big enough for more than two hunters and they were there first. Either way, I'd walk and I think you should too.