I will say with the T/C Hawkin Hunter 1X scope, when it was working properly, it was very clear and made a very good aiming device. I had no complaints with it until it fogged. I am sure they will just send me a new one. But I think I will get a Nikon 1X in the mean time and then throw that one on an actual Hawkins or Renegade rifle. I thought of getting one of them Tradition scopes you told me about as well and throw that on a Stalker Carbine with a 1:32 twist just for stalking with.