I'm sure he is talking about the Hillsdale lake areafor hunting the public ground. I bow hunt right by that area. I dont riffle hunt but I know that area gets hit pretty hard durning gun season. I would suggest hitting an area with alot of woods and getting in the middle of them. Let the weekend yuppies spook the deer towards you, I can promise you there are some big bucks roaming around that lake. Go to Google Earth and select Hillsdale Lake Kansas and you canview the area pretty well. On the North side of the lake put your pointer on 38 41.25.32 thats a pretty nice patch of woods. I would get there well before sun up. Hope you can scout it out a bit before gun season.