For many of them that is true. They care not a lick about us or our rights to kill. However for many more, the vast majority of them, they do care about individual's rights. They may not care about hunting or hunters but they do care about americans having rights. They may be the same folks that just don't want to hear the bloody truth. For them I can be flexible. Mobo, I know we don't know each other except through a keyboard but I think you know me well enough to know I won't bend to antis. Its not the antis I try to accomodate. It is John and Jane q Public. Those middle of the road folks that may be OK with me hunting, maybe even a little curious, but they don't want a picture in thier head of a dead and bloody deer. Why don't they have to accomodate me? Sheer numbers. That is a sad but true reality. I can't express my views any clearer than I have. This has been an interesting and thought provoking debate for me. I'm grateful for that, its one of the things I like about this site. With that I will agree to disagree with some of you and withdraw from this one. Thank you,(most of you), for keeping it respectful, Greg.