Ihave a brute lite and a baby brute.Both were impulsive buys that I'm probably going to take a hit on.While they're both lite,they aren't as lite as their advertised weight.I hate having a bar around me whenI bowhunt so they never get used.The brute lite was used once and the baby brute was used maybe twice.I'd sell either for a cheap price.They aren't bad stands but they ain't no Lone wolf.