Thanks Phil ,Keith...and Oneshot7...I'm still thanking you for turning me on to Power Pro.

Pits are dangerous..this pit drops off to 20 feet real fast. When I had my depth finder it showed 31 feet in the middle. Last week I was throwing that deep diving Rapala and I hooked on to one larger than this baby. That one broke the line ..

PHIL..the spot where I am at showed 31 foot on the depth finder.

Why? My hypothesis is this.. Until I started using the Palomar knot I was using the improved clinch knot. Matt and I had at least 8 break offs..and some where on fish as small as 2 1/2 pounds..We noticed every break was literally at the knot. I knw how to tie the Palomar..I just thought with 20 pound test it wasn't necessary. Since we started using the Palomar we've had zero beak offs. On crank baits it's hard ot tie a Palomar knot...but after loosing the haxg of a life time 2 weeks ago...I will find a way to tie a palomar knot on a crank bait.