People, I could not agree more with you. I always was under the impression that when you measured by volume, that Black Powder and Pyrodex were the same in "power." Maybe Pyrodex had a little edge, but for instance this year I shot a deer with 90 grains of Goex 2f. I just can't believe that 72 grains of Pyrodex RS would produce the same energy down range.

When I shoot my Black Diamond XR with a 375 grain Buffalo Bullet SSB I load 100 grains of Goex 2f. And now they want me to believe that 80 grains of Pyrodex will produce the same results?

I do not own a chronograph. Of all people that should, I guess I am one who should own one. My friends around here are always asking me what velocity certain loads have and I tell them, it should be plenty but I have no idea.. or I read another person's posts who uses Triple Se7en (yes sabotloader I keep track of your numbers) and he got this with this load.. etc.

It was just when I saw that chart, it really threw me for a loop. I was shooting 110 grains of Goex 2f out of my .58 caliber GMB with a roundball. 88 grains of Pyrodex is going to give me that same thud down range? Well today I got out my scale, powder measure, Goex 2f, Pyrodex, Pyrodex P, Triple Se7en 2f, Triple Se7en 3f, and American Pioneer Powder 2f, and the new tubes and caps (thanks Lane) and measured out sixty different loads to replicate this chart and some other shooting suspicions I have. I was very careful in getting an average weight, and all loads are not more then .01 different then the others. Just to double check I even weighed some of the tubes to compare them. And they were equal.

If it don't rain tomorrow, I might just do some field shooting on my own to see what happens. My new shooting platform/rest I bought will be here tomorrow along with a couple hundred new sabots, and it will give me a chance to test that as well.

Are those Chrony .. chronographs any good they sell at Midsouth Shooters Supply?