i use a ez bow sight it requires no peep and no kisser very accurate.i also shoot local archery competitions in the hunter's class and found out that its excellent for long shots also where torque is critical as it is in the deer stand when seconds count.won a few tournaments with it not to mention taken a few py bucks that with a peep i wouldn't have been able to shoot late enough or quick enough.a friend of mine uses the ez bow sight also with 30 mature gobblers and several py bucks to his name.very accurate and durable sight ez bow sight 800-331-7099