Well it was hot today but I wanted to try my 54 cal Renegade out with some round balls. I just didn't like the way it was shooting the various conicals I shot through it. The load was 80 gr of Triple Seven, Wonder Wad, and patched round ball. Shooting at a 4" black circle at 50 yds (once I got it sighted in for the balls) and swabbing the bore between shots, the 3 shot group measured .85" center to center. I have to thank Cayugad somewhat for this from reading his posts. Looks like I have another shooter. Hopefully the target pic will upload for me.