ORIGINAL: herman
Chap,the reason is why I use 4759 is speed.I get more out of it with the 4759,I am wanting to reach out also.I hunt on a power line and the deer cross at 150 to 250 yds.Most of the fellows say that they find the sst 250 inside the deer but I have been trying for 4 years now and at different ranges all mine have been pass throughs.And they leave a big hole as they come out.
A couple years ago myself and a buddy got drawed for a special muzzleloader hunt on a refuge.2 does and a buck came by him and he shot one with a knight,the buck and doe ran past me at 65 yds and I threw up and shot got lucky and hitthe buckin the center of the onside shoulder,the sst passed through that shoulder and the other shoulder,the hole looked just a little bigger than a 50 cent piece.
The scope I have on mine now is a lepould 4x12 blistic plex.I have it set to hit dead on at 100,first dot at 200 and the second dot at 300.Shooting the heavy loads are hard on scopes I have busted 2 and stripped the screw on 2 lepould rings.One was a burris singnature shatered the lense in it,one was a nikon broke the cross hairs in it.
The 250 xtp's shoot good out to 200 yds but at 300 I just cannot get them to group like the sst's,I tried some of the barnes spitfire 245 gr last year and they would shoot one hole at 100 yds but couldn't get them to group worth a hoot at 200.Thats the reason I want to try some different powder with the xtp's when I get around to it.
The reason the 2 did'nt go off was the sabot wasn't sealed enough in the barrel,the best thing it to try different sabots because all the barrels are not the same size,You want the sabot tight but you don't want to have to drive it down the barrel with a hammer.My barrel on my ss is a little big I can take the ribbed sabot and push it down the barrel with my finger so it don't shoot so good.the sabots that comes with the sst's works great in mine so I don't have to get a thinner sabot.
Helped a fellow set up2 new ss savages last year one the sabots that came with the sst's worked fine the other they were too hard to go down the barrel,he ended up useing the harvester high pressure sabots in the other one.The bolts were different one the win primers would go in and out good but the other one the win you had to knock them in,the federal worked good,so he ended up useing the federal primers in both.
One other thing is try swabbing between shots and not swabbing some like to be swabbed and some don't.
Be sure the barrel is cooled between shots.When I shoot in the hot months I take a wet towel and keep it in the ice chest after I shoot I drape it over the barrel so don't have to wait so long for it to cool.
There's a fellow on here that posts called 1-shot from NC I think I remember him saying that he used 5744 and the dipper and even the xtp'sbut not sure,anyway he is the one that can tell you anythng you want to know about the savage.Years ago when I got my first one he sure helped me out.
thank you for the post Herman. I figured you were using a more powerful scope to get 300. I was shooting harverster crushed rib sabots when they misfired, and they were very very easy to push down the barrel. last weekend I used MMP Short Black and they fit just right. I have several different types to try in different bullets. I will listen to what you say about swabing, but didn't realize I had to do that on a smokeless powder ML. So the 4759 is a more powerful powder, OK. I am looking for pass thru with a big hole on the off side, so the SST may be my bullet. I like their price, but wanna see how the Barnes do. I am using federal primers right now and they seem to work ok. Great tip on the cooling. I will try that tomorrow. You must be shooting heavy loads to get two scopes to break. Mine seems to be holding up OK, but I have only put 30 shots thru it, so we will see. I don't think recoil is too bad. thanks for all your help.
Chap