Redclub
I agree speed kills but that is not an option in some states.
I agree with you here, in Idaho, the option has been taken away during regular ML season, but we can still go the other way during regular rifle season or short range season. The new ruling is why I am trying to learns the in's&out's of shooting conicals in a side hammer.
I do not know why but I thought you were in Washington, and at least in Washington you can shoot sabots, the bullets need to be all lead, but the are some really nice all lead bullets for sabotsavaialble out there.
I don't feel any load I ever shot out of a White had any recoil to speak of. The 300 Weatherby that I have thumps you a heck of a lot more.
Totally agree here, I have really never felt the recoil from a ML that my 300 mag applies and it doesn not even hold a candle to a 3 1/2" Federal Turkey load from a Remington 870...
Shooting with Cdad, I think he is in the same mind frame, he loads his U-Mag way up drops ones those big conicals in and will shoot for several hours and not think a thing about it. He is oblivious to recoil.
I would go up a little more (120 grains)in the White if it would not lose accuracy,now mind you this is at elk and maybe next year at moose ,
Personally, I do not know if anything above 100 grains is necessary for elk or Moose, the key is, other than shot placement, is penetration of the thick skin, and the bullet still have enough shape to possibly crush and penetrate a shoulder bone, after that it can open up and do what ever a good bullet does. 120 grains might provide better trajectory which would be and added benefit, but might it also might cause the pure soft lead bullet to break up in difficult situations - just speculating do not know for sure although that was one of the reasons that wrapping a lead bullet in copper was invented. The hunters shooting dangerous game in Africa wanted the improvement. You couldn't shoot them to fast and have them stay together.
And just thinking, isn't this the knock on PowerBelts? They seem to blow up with some regularity with those high velocity charges...