We all don't buy Parkers or L.C. Smiths
anyways it is not the gun nor the dog it is what theshooter or handler is capable of and how much time they can invest in the shooting or training. Birds and Time on the ground make Bird Dogs/ Targets and Shells Make a Shooter. any Setter is a better (Upland) Hunting Companion than anything else.
A Bird Dog is a Lifetime Investment and the Benefits are Priceless.