i don't apply for the draws in Ca...just wouldn't have the time or funds to scout it and hunt it the way it should be done...so i stick with my usual spots and do exploring in those areas....i know there are lots of hunters in d5 at ice house or union valley....but if you get off of the roads and use some topo maps you can find some monsters...they are there.....for b zone it is just a family tradition...grandpa has been hunting that spot for 40+ years and there are some nice bucks up there too...