I've seen and hunted a few that would put my ugly mug in many a magazines if Icould ever put it all together. I had a Typical about 50 yds in front of me tending a doe. I swear his rack looked like it was three feet off his head to the top. He was thick and wide. The doe was headed right for me and stoped at about 50 yds. She just stood there with her nose pointing right at me. The buck was about 3 yds behind her following her every move. Like an idiot I let out a couple of light grunts. She changed her line of travel and they skirted by out of ethical shooting range. If I would have just been paitent and keep quietI think she would have stayed her course. I have hadseveral other failures with huge bucks over the years. I never new any of the "Huge" bucks were there. They just showed up behind does.