Well I wasn't going to open this can of worms myself but since it has already been done, I will add my comments. The comments Len made bothered me as well but I usually keep to myself about this stuff.
I guess my short response to Len's direct question would be define "best shooters". In what aspect?
I have also been fortunate enough to shoot on a regular basis with several people that have national titles in pro classes. The area I live in has people at this elite level in many venues of the sport, including FITA, Field, Indoors, and 3D, some of the guys locally even have current world records in pro classes as well. Being exposed to these folks on a regular basis as well as some fantastic hunters, the kind of guys that kill big bucks consistently and just don't miss animals has shown me that the best "shooters" are the competitive archers. Yes hunting requires great amounts of tuning, and skillhowever the amount of preperation it takes to become proficient at the elite level of hunting in respect to tuning, learninga repeatableshot, adapting to weather/geographical conditions, and the mental aspects so that one can consistently put arrows in a vitals sized group in any unpredictable hunting type condition are not even close to what is needed to compete at the national level in FITA,Field archery, indoor spots, or 3D. Yes, I understand that different form must be used for hunting to be able to adapt to unpredictable and less than ideal conditions, and that you don't typically have the time to gather yourself for the shot like you can in competitive forms of archery, but this still doesn't compare to the preperation that must be done for certain venues of competitive archery and being comptitive at that elite pro level.
To shoot a 1400+ on a fita face, or a 555+ on a field archery course is in my opinion the hardest things to do inarchery because of so many factors. The very few that can do this consistentlyin these two venues are the people that I put on top of the stack of "best shooters". There are very few people that can do this on a consistent basis and the amount of training and tuning it takes is
substantially more than what it takes to put a fixed blade broadhead through the lungs of a buck at 50 yards or closer consistently, in a short window of opportunity and less than ideal conditions. Most guys that can perform at this level in field and FITA have been training the right way,and practicing with purpose for 10+ years before they ever get to that level of shooting.
something in this thread is bothering me. seems to be a little bit of prejudice against target shooters among some who don't really do it. someone (len) even said something like 'the best shooters in the world - hunters'.this seems to be a point mosthave agreed on in this thread. not sure why this is bothering me - except i don't get it. i'm lucky enough to shoot with or just in front of or behind one of the best in the world sometimes - because he's not to far away and we have mutual friends - and he can bust nocks off arrows at will from 50 yards - at will. he wins pretty much every asa known distance shoot, and 2 of the national shoots from pro class this year. len may be able to beat him shooting a right handed bow left handed - maybe - but that's it, and w/ 5 minutes practice - i doubt it. there isn't one person here who can touch him - at anything, anywhere, or in any conditions, or footing,that has to do w/ shooting arrows.i doubt there's one person herewho could beat hisgirlfriend at any form of archery either. if you could, you'd be doing it.
also, want to learn about bows? tuning, shimming, what bow companies bows need to have the axles replaced straight from the factory, packing limb pockets... and lots of stuff not many have even heard of - find a good spot shooter or 3d shooter. i'm lucky. i get to see these guys bows and talk to them. i get to find out what they do, and how they do it.
the reality is - these guys are better and know much more than just about any hunt only folks you'll ever find, more about tuning and form, and they have access to folks many of us have never heard of - folks who make a living having the best shooters in the world visit for coaching.
any way - its a myth - hunters are no where near the best shots, shooters, or tuners around - and its not even close. don't fool yourselves.