Chuck...Rural upstate NY is a far cry from the urban jungle that many people envision when you mention NEW YORK, isn't it.... It's pretty country, and the folks here are much different from city folks, both socially and politically...My county is VERY conservative and VERY Republican..Unfortunately, NYC has the population, so THEY get to elect all of our politicians...Like Hilary and Chuckie Schumer...[:@]...[:@]...[:@]...

I've spent some time in northern Clinton County, near Renovo, hunting and fishing famous trout streams like Kettle Creek and Young Woman's Creek... BEAUTIFUL country...They have an expanding elk herd in that area now too, you know...