They have been tight lipped a majority of the time that's for sure. I haven't heard anything in tyhe finger lakes region since the season started they have been henned up, I just got back from the northern adks where the hunting was better we had great action almost everyday out, I tagged a nice 20# 9 1/2 bearded, 1 1/4" spurred bird and had close encounters with a few other gobblersas well as many jakes, but it's wierd one day gobbles everywhere the next nothing. Probably the toughest season yet.