I love 'em so far. I got great groups with the very first load i tried. I was also shooting open sights. I pulled the scope off the other night, i need to start getting used to open sights again on this gun. I dont have much experience yet with the ghost ring, so im going to do a lot of shooting this month. They did awesome in dim light and the red front sight was perfect and shown crisp and clear. Perfect for where im hunting this year.