I then put a clean target on and shot 3 more shots. Here it that. Shot 1 was right where I wanted it, 3" high and dead on windage wise. Shot 2 and 3 were way left, about a 4" horizontal group, I don't think that is good, but it is OK for first time out with the rifle. My sabots were loose and I had a poor shooting rest/position. I will try it again a couple of days. I felt the gun was pretty dirty after shooting it, not as bad as black powder, but pretty dirty. I ran about 12 patches thru it before I felt it was clean. I used Hoppe and Rem Oil on the last couple. All in all I am satisfied, but I know I will get this thing dialed in with the XTPs and then switch over to testing bullets I want to hunt elk with in 2008. I plan on hunting deer this year with the rifle in both ML and rifle season. the big bullets do a big number on deer, with the recoil a lot less than my 30-o6 that is a good thing. Chap Gleason