As far as calling goes, we let the guides do all of the calling. They were set up 50-100 yards behind us. No need to have the bull looking right at you. Better to have him walk past you looking for the cows. I had a hoochie mama just to stop him if he didn't stop on his own, but didn't need it.

When we set up we stood in front of the cover, not behind something. Trust your camo, the elk didn't seem to pick us out like whitetails do.Just don't let them wind you, one whiff and they are gone.

We had good luck getting them to come out into open meadows in the evening. It is really tuff getting shots in the thick woods.