I think that some of you are really getting my point, and please don't think that I'm slamming anyone for buying all of the gear that thier particular budget will allow. But do you really think that Wolfskin is worth $300 a suit and the other day in some catalogue I saw arrows for $350 per dozen. Now I'm not knocking these products or the people who buy them I just can't beleive that people pay thier "hard" earned money on stuff that they know they for a lot less and do just as good of a job.