i seen those RI...my gun is compact and light and i got a decint knee to rest it on..so i havent gotten around to picking one up...but its my right hand(trigger hand) that kills me. its hard to explain..but the way i have to move my wrist to hold any regular stocked gun kills me after a few minutes. turkey hunting is the only hunting where i usually keep my gun in my hand most of the time..or would like to. i dont mind buying the pistol grip. itll make it more comfortable for me...and make my more steady. ive tested the idea out with my m4 carbine AR15 with practically the same stock...and it makes things alot more comfortable. i actually want royalties from the collapsable camo shotgun stock! that was MY IDEA!!! lol. as soon as we got the M4 years ago i said boyyy i want this on my shotgun!! guess i should have acted on it huh!