You guys crack me up, I too am trying out a11.5" Doinker I will use it for 3-D but for elk hunting I think I want somethingsmaller andlighter. It weighs 16.1oz, its the Field Series Power Bar (BP11). I really like how well it holds a bow steady, but when hiking 6 to 10 miles a day, I can make do without the added weight. These past few years I have used the Limb Saver System on my bows. They too work realy well.