my grampa tooka huge tom today, too bad he isnt on the team. it wieghed 23# had 1 1/4 spurs and sorted a 12 3/4" beard. it was that big one i have been talkign about but never got a shot at. he used my B-Mobile and the tom spurred it hard. then he dropped him a 15 yards. i wish i coulda got a crack at him. i am headed back out tommorow to get the other bird i saw. i figure he is in between mine and gramp's birds. he will score nicely if i get him.