I'll put our post back to top with the tom that I killed last week. The birds seemed to almost done breeding season. Not very responsive at all. So my dad and I had to resort to others tactics to kill our two toms. We both spot and stalked. I killed mine at 21 yards... 25 lb 7 oz, 8.5 inch beard, and 7/8 & 15/16 inch spurs. He scored 60.5625.