PreacherTony I don't get too serious about much, The main gripe I have with mathews is that they not as fast as they say they are, they are a little misleading. They record their bow @ 4.4 grs per #. Instead of the standard 5 grs. per #. I quess I am comparing apples to oranges. I hate to sound knitpicky over .6 grains but it is what it is.