there is a release truball makes, the bt ultra gold, that is designed to be shot like that matt, and i see a lot of guys using it that don't know its for that. i shoot a plain old ultra 2. its for shooting the way larry teaches, which i try and do. i relax my fingers before execution, but as a unit w/ the rest of my hand, arm, shoulder... - you know the routine. the release doesn't slip at all when i shoot. quite a few of my buddies shoot exactly the way you describe, w/ and w/out triggers, and they're all open a and pro shooters, and are really good shots. i'mjust really starting to shoot good this way, better than i ever have - so i'mscared to try anything newright now.