i like the 17 hmr and the 260 rem. I don't know the age of the .260, but it is gaining ground every year. Great selection of 6.5 bullets in a short action. Not a big fan of the short mags and super short mags. Still using the same bullet, just coming out of a different package. There's a reason why the old .243, .270, 308, 30-06, etc are still very popular. They work!