Jeff,

Got your email , thanx. Happy to see you got your Xmas present,<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle> I know this question will sound dumb to some, but in reference to the draw length, how are you or anyone else measuring it? String (in nock) to the farthest part of the grip, like measuring brace height? So many different ways of measuring draw length.<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> I like the sounds and looks of the grip (from picsI have seen). The Draw force curve sounds good as well, but when you mentioned the valley being narrow, is it like a Mathews type valley (which is why I dont shoot Mathews bows any longer, NOT BASHING them) or more like the Z cam (we love so much) or the CPS system? ( I know it is not like the Z cams but had to throw that in, lol. What weight stabilizers are you all finding balances it perfect?

Jeff, what are you doing with 400+ grain arrows? <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I wish some of these places near me would get some in!!!<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

Best of luck with it Jeff ~~~