yeah exactly usfwc when the oaks are juveniles alot of times the leaves do not look the same i have some that are just like the ones from the tree and then others are rounded but im starting to see them form ....i planted about 30 at the ranch acouple of weeks ago i still havent gone to go check up on them though.....the leaves might not look the same but they are the same tree....and oh yeah the acorns are pretty small from about 1/2 to 1 inch ...