Silent, I didn't post the link to that site. But that definitely is what the meteorologists THINK happens. Nobody has ever actually been able to film a specific tree in a tornado to say for sure, one way or the other.

By using the straw in a tornado bit, you're using an unproven hypothesis as proof for the performance of light, fast arrows. Like I said earlier, actual performance of light, fast arrows on game animals is all the proof required.

I'd be happy to drop the whole issue except for one thing. Problem is that there are a lot of tuning, shooting form and broadhead selection issues that come with that speed. Lots of people reading these threads where folks are raving about speed and they get the idea that they have to have speed too. Then they find out they don't have the experience or skill to use it effectively. They need to hear that there is an alternative to speed that they can use and still put meat on the table. And they need to hear it without this kind of 'my way is better than your way' baloney.

You're right about my experience with carbon being a rare circumstance. I'd imagine less than 5% of all archers have a draw length like mine. As compounds have gotten shorter and more and more reflexed in the handle, fewer and fewer bows are offered in my draw length. That is what has finally driven me to the realization that I hang out with a bunch of smurfs. (Randy Newman's tune 'Short People' is suddenly running thru my head <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>) But all my fellow knuckledraggers that I know of have had pretty much the same experiences with carbon. I'd like to know WHY they don't work for so many long draw shooters.