beprepen,

You seem to be the gospal for heavy arrows, and thats cool with me

Though I do not agree with you, I have in the past had many debates, and have done much of my own research on all the points of heavy and light that you have brought up.

Experience to me is 100 times more important that research. And I will tell you SPEED is a HUGE factor in penetration.

I will let you shoot my new DC Patriot with a 365 grn arrow into a brand new Tuff Buck 3d target. And when you see the point coming out the other side<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> you will be a believer<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

I never imagined my penetration would increase by so much.

You keep preaching your fat arrows and when you see me in the woods bent over some red leaves and clumps of hair, with a gorilla grip in my hand trying to pull my little itty pitty bloody arrow from the core of the Earth, just keep on walking<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>