Like Tree climber said there were some problem guns out there. Mossberg had some quality control problems during one span of time. I've got one of the first 835's that came out and it has performed excellant, never a gam or any other problems. I just got one of the new 835's last year and it seems as good as the first. I think Mossberg has correct the quality problems they had. They are a pretty good gun for the money. My .02