At our deer camp we've been practicing some of these things for a few years now. The guy that owns the property had it timbered out 2 years ago and the guys that own the property down from us had theirs timbered out 5 years ago. We did a lot of shooting does the first couple of years that PA opened up the regs on them and have laid off the last several years. This year was the first year we really started to notice a difference because last year with the farmers' crop rotation and the undergrowth not mature from the clearing the deer hadn't taken hold yet. Now with the cover, the food plots on the timber roads and the farm providing forage there is a considerable difference. The deer look healthier, there is a much better buck to doe ratio, the bucks are more mature and able to establish dominance for breeding, and each year more good bucks are being shot. We may not see as many deer as we used to, but the deer we do see are much bigger in body and healthier looking.