I retract all the good stuff I said about those darn peeps. I was shooting today and saw that yet another g5 as turned oval on me. It is not alot by no means but I cant deal with the bad quality and for the money. I can tell you that most of the ones egging are on high poundage bows. Len said today he was not gonna stock them anymore and I cant blame him if its a poor designed product why keep it.