I would love to have a Zeiss but I use alot of Luepys,they work great jst hard for me to justify the extra bucks on a Zeiss when what I have works so well for the price.Leupold isn't cheap but it's high compared to alot of others,the Zeiss,Swarovski,S/B group is just a bit too much,I never had a problem as long as they Varix-II and above.