I wasn't referencing anything. It doesn't matter what we think because you said it's too late to turn back. LOL What else is there to say except, hope you like 'em. It's not the arrow I would have bought, but hey, that's just me. I don't ever worry about slow speeds. I bought one of the fastest bows going and have it dumbed down to 252 fps with my short draw and 467 grain arrows, but it sure is quiet and shoots so fine.